Genes Reunited email from Louise Alcock dated 15 June 2006 04:39

RE: Samuel Tivey

Hi John, Samuel Tivey is my gr gr grandfather also. What I know is as follows. He is the son of Edward Tivey and Sarah? (she passed away when Samuel migrated). Samuel was christened 5-12-1814 at Melbourne, Derbyshire. He married Phoebe Wild (born 1810 Derby) on 9-2-1833 at St Werbergh, Derby. Her parents were Thomas Wylde and Ellen? Both deceased at time of migrating. (Note spelling difference). Shipping records show Samuel was a lace maker and Phoebe was a silk winder. Phoebe was also listed as ‘delicate’. They were both listed as Baptists. Samuel could read and write, Phoebe read only and all the children of school age could also read and write. Shipping record shows; James, houseservant 14 years, Derby; Alfred – 11 years; Sarah 9 years; Elizabeth 7 years and Harriet 11 months. All these children were born in Nottinghamshire. They arrived on Bermondsey 9-12-1848 at Sydney(reel 2135, 2148) I also found Joseph c 21.2.1834 who didn’t arrive with them. It would put him at 14 years of age as James. They also had an Ellen and an Anne born in Australia? When? Samuel Tivey died 15-11-1876 at Crankies Plains near Bombala, with the profession of grazier. It says his father Edward was a farmer. He died age 62 of apoplexy, duration of 6 days. Buried at Bombala, Wesleyan. Says he had 3 males living, 1 male deceased and 1 female deceased. Phoebe died 31-8-1878 at Elmsley near Bombala, age 67 of ‘inflammation of the lungs’. Length of illness was 3 days. Buried Bombala, Presbyterian. Children were listed the same as for Samuel’s death certificate. I am descended from Harriet Tivey who married Jonas Alcock, married at Monaro on 16-2-1867. On their marriage certificate it lists Samuel Tivey as a squatter at Doolondondoo, Moles Station. He gave Harriet consent to be married as she was under the age of 21. They married C of E. Harriet and Jonas had 8 children. Harriet died on 21-6-1884, 12 days after giving birth to #8child, who was my grandfather of peritonitis; a childbirth related complication. She died at Brown Mountain. It lists Samuel’s occupation as grazier. All the best. Louise

Transcript from Reel 2458

Assisted Passage to Sydney "Bermondsey" arrived 9 December 1848

NameageOccup.BornParentsRead

WriteHealthDenomination

Tivey, Samuel33LacemakerMelbourne, DerbyshireEdward alive, Sarah deceased DerbyshirebothgoodBaptist

Phoebe37SilkwinderMelbourne, DerbyshireThomas and Ellen Wilde both deceasedRead onlydelicateBaptist

Alfred11NottinghamshireaboardbothGoodBaptist

Sarah9NottinghamshireaboardbothgoodBaptist

Elizabeth7NottinghamshireaboardbothgoodBaptist

James14HouseservantDerbyaboardbothgoodBaptist

Harriett11monthsNottinghamshireaboardneithergoodBaptist

Email from Enid Andrews 23 Jan 2012 re Tivey

Thank you for your prompt response.

I will send my corrections and information to Ian as you have suggested.

The following may be of interest to you as it is family history I learnt when visiting Tosti McGown in 1982:

Samuel Tivey and family came to Australia following the recommendation of their Doctor to improve the health of either Samuel or Alfred who had bronchitis.

Tosti remembered reading the diary of the voyage out here just after she was married. She remembered "being toed down the Thames". It was indeed interesting to read this very diary you have submitted.

The Tiveys owned lace mills in Nottingham. The money from the sale enabled Samuel to purchase property in Nimmitabel.

Alfred Tivey bought a property at Nimmitabel known as Moles Station. Alfred did not like farming, he liked cattle. Just before Alfred died the property was snowed in for 3 weeks and 1800 cattle were lost. Alfred and Eliza gave a donation to build a Church at Nimmitabel? and this is recorded on the pulpit.

Alfred was more hesitant than Eliza in taking a leap.

Alfred married Eliza Ann White. Eliza came to live with Tosti's Grandmother Green when she was 10. Tosti thought Eliza's mother was blind.

Alfred and Eliza's children : Edie did not marry.

Tom went to the Boer War and never married. Tom went to Queensland.

Amy Violet had a nice singing voice and had a lot to do with Tosti when a child. Amy did not marry.

Edie and Amy later had a boarding house in Bundanoon.

Alfred "Alf" was killed in WW1 by a Vickers machine gun after 3 minutes at the front line. His sister, Ruby had a dream about Alf but

could not see his lower face. It was learnt later that the lower part of his face had been blown away.

Twins Ruby and Pearl. Ruby is Tosti's mother. Pearl drowned when she was 20 months old. Ruby and Pearl got out through the picket

fence and went down to the Kybeyan River. When Ruby was found she was pointing to the river and saying "Pearl Pearl".

When Ruby was 72 years old she walked in her sleep and woke up in the river where Pearl had drowned.

All the Tiveys had a lot of dignity about them.

All the children were great readers learnt latin roots and sums. They could write a good letter. Ruby wrote the best letter.

Ruby and Amy were taught by Henry George Elphick.

Myra (Ellen Myra) was a wonderful horse rider and probably the best of all the girls.

Greenbrook Station - Tosti's English Grandmother planted many English trees including a Greenbrook Cypress and a red baby rose without thorns, almond trees and poplars along the river banks.

Tosti and Jack McGown built their home at East Lindfield in 1936-7. They had 4 children. Their eldest , a girl, was born exaltly 100 years after Alfred Tivey on the

22nd December 1936. (Monaro Pioneers website has Alfred born on 23 December and I cannot find a record of Alfred's birth to check.)

Comment on the above is most welcome.

Regards

Enid¹⁶