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Family of Harry Rolfe PALMER and Mary Rose BUCHANAN

Husband: Harry Rolfe PALMER

Wife: Mary Rose BUCHANAN

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Mary Rose BUCHANAN

  • Name:

  • Mary Rose BUCHANAN2

  • Sex:

  • Female

  • Father:

  • James BUCHANAN (c. 1837-1911)

  • Mother:

  • Harriette Rose MCMAHON (1839-1864)

  • Birth:

  • 8 May 1862

  • Red Hills, Cavan, Ireland

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  • It is a bit debateable when Mary was born. The death certificate says she was born in 1865 in Red Hills County Cavan. The certificate of her marriage to James Ball says she was 21 in 1881, a birth year of 1860. The certificate of her marriage to Henry Palmer in 1888 gives her age as 24, a birth year of 1864. But the records of the Immigration Board, the shipping company and the Migration Deposit Journal have her born in 1862 meaning she was aged 15 when she migrated. I have chosen 1862 as her birth year on the weight of evidence.

    Ray Palmer email dated 10 December 2011 says "Both pieces of information about Mary Buchanan's sailing to Australia indicate that her year of birth was 1862.....Her birth date/age is an issue. I firmly believe that she was born in 1862. I believe that she may have advanced it to get married to James Ball as she would have been about 19 instead of 21....Also when she married Harry she claimed to be 24.... I believe that she lowered her age here so they were both 24 -when she was in fact 26."

    To complicate things, the Smith Dennes Family Tree on Ancestry.com (owner Peter Smith) says her date of birth was 8 May 1865

     

  • Baptism:

  • 9 May 1862 (age 0)

  • Annagh Parish, County Cavan

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  • See Baptism Registry entry in multimedia

  • Emigration:

  • Feb 1877 (age 14)

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  • Death:

  • 7 Sep 1952 (age 90)

  • 44 Lord St Roseville, Roseville, New South Wales, Australia3

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  • Death Certificate givesage at death of 87(born 1865), time in colonies as 73 years(migrated in 1879), staus as widow, place of birth as Red Hills

Child 1: Harriett Phoebe PALMER

  • Name:

  • Harriett Phoebe PALMER

  • Sex:

  • Female

  • Birth:

  • 1888

  • Newtown, New South Wales, Australia4

  • Death:

  • 1968 (age 79-80)

  • Parramatta NSW

Child 2: Phoebe Harriet PALMER

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Daughter: Phoebe Harriet PALMER

  • Name:

  • Phoebe Harriet PALMER

  • Sex:

  • Female

  • Spouse:

  • Herbert Walter ALBERTSON ( - )

  • Birth:

  • 2 Dec 1889

  • New South Wales, Australia5

  • Death:

  • 25 Oct 1968 (age 78)

  • Parramatta, New South Wales, Australia5

Child 3: Annie Rose PALMER

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Daughter: Annie Rose PALMER

  • Name:

  • Annie Rose PALMER

  • Sex:

  • Female

  • Spouse:

  • John G I HUBBARD ( - )

  • Birth:

  • 17 Apr 1891

  • St Leonards, New South Wales, Australia6

  • Death:

  • 1969 (age 77-78)

  • St Leonards, New South Wales, Australia5

Child 4: Gladys Eleanor H PALMER

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Daughter: Gladys Eleanor H PALMER

  • Name:

  • Gladys Eleanor H PALMER

  • Sex:

  • Female

  • Spouse:

  • Norman PETSCHLER ( - )

  • Birth:

  • 17 Jan 1893

  • St Leonards, New South Wales, Australia7

Child 5: Stephen Henry PALMER

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Son: Stephen Henry PALMER

  • Name:

  • Stephen Henry PALMER

  • Sex:

  • Male

  • Spouse:

  • Maria Avery BARTER ( - )

  • Birth:

  • 3 Jun 1898

  • Kogarah, New South Wales, Australia8

  • Death:

  • 1959 (age 60-61)

  • Chatswood, New South Wales, Australia

Child 6: Amy Elizabeth PALMER

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Daughter: Amy Elizabeth PALMER

  • Name:

  • Amy Elizabeth PALMER

  • Sex:

  • Female

  • Spouse:

  • Quentin Robert PORTER ( - )

  • Birth:

  • 22 Jul 1904

  • Kogarah, New South Wales, Australia9

  • Death:

  • 17 Jan 1991 (age 86)

  • Belrose, NSW

Note on Wife: Mary Rose BUCHANAN (1)

Mary migrated per Kapunda which departed Plymouth 21 Nov 1876 and arrived Sydney 8 Feb 1877.

Her Migration deposit was paid by James McMahon 17 Feb 1876. Her place of residence was Red Hills and the Person of Note to Whom Reference can be Made was E. B. Venables Esq. J. P. Red Hills. ,The deposit was £5.

The Immigration Board record says she was Catholic, her father was James Buchanan, no mention of mother meaning she was deceased. Her Relative in the Colony was given as Uncle, James McMahon, St Albans

 

 

Notes on Raymond Palmer's record for Mary Palmer - source oral history

 

"Parents previously had a boy who died at birth

Mother died when Mary born

Went to live with her mother's parents James and Harrietts McMahon on the Isle of Man at Douglas

Her father gave her a payment

Came to Australia on Kapunda - her Godfather was the ship's surgeon - Dr Goode

Went to live at Windsor with James McMahon and Phoebe(Armstrong). He was a sergeant of police.

James invested her money for hger which she loist in bank crash.

The McMahons had seven children:

Marshall

Ted

Billy

Sean

Joseph

Luke

Septimus

Married Harry in 1888 at Ramsgate Rd Kogarah

Lived 42 Lord St Roseville.

Died of Hypostatic Pneumonia and Chronic myocardittiis.

Buried Northern Suburbs Crematorium, 8/9/1952 - cremated

 

Note on Wife: Mary Rose BUCHANAN (2)

Mary migrated to Australia in 1877 presumably after the death of Ellen McMahon(nee Finlay). It is probable that she was living with Ellen since the death of her mother Rose which seems to have been in 1864 after the birth of James.Mary was oinly 15 when she migrated.

Sources

1.

Marriage Certificate. 1888/577. Cit. Date: 25 April 1888. John McMahon.

2.

Marriage Certificate.

3.

Death Certificate. 1952/20590. John McMahon.

4.

Birth Certificate. 9440/1888. John McMahon.

5.

Research by Raymond Palmer. John McMahon.

6.

Birth Certificate. 32092/1890. John McMahon.

7.

Birth Certificate. 32943/1893.

8.

Birth Certificate. 22705/1897. John McMahon.

9.

Ibid. 23134/1904. John McMahon.